Dropbox status: access issues and outage reports

Problems in the last 24 hours

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Most Reported Problems

The following are the most recent problems reported by Dropbox users through our website.

• Errors (50%)
• Sign in (38%)
• Website Down (13%)

Live Outage Map

The most recent Dropbox outage reports came from the following cities:

City	Problem Type	Report Time
Bournemouth	Sign in	3 days ago
Paramaribo	Errors	29 days ago
Bogotá	Website Down	29 days ago
Auxerre	Errors	29 days ago
Salt Lake City	Sign in	1 month ago
Madrid	Errors	2 months ago

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Dropbox Issues Reports

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  David Tereba (@dawedeveloper) reported 2 minutes ago

  @terryaidev @MihariOyama Your dropbox issue might be resolved, TesterBuddy is a platform where devs list their betas and chat with testers directly.

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  J. (@munchivelo) reported 3 minutes ago

  track back to just over a year to now. i'd built an automated ecommerce flow that took a whole store end to end. seo would research trends, products, and map those into .js scripts which would launch prompts that read those research files. that would feed an image gen prompt which created designs, set to specific standard. i'd generate them, and then ANOTHER prompt, would check the images, score them with a criteria, and either move them to an accepted folder, or move them to an archive folder. the accepted folders, would automatically fire a script which would open photoshop, map the image to smart layers, in a 'product shot' template i'd made, and then export all of the final product shots to another folder, and then exported the flat designs which would be used for the products. another script took the product images, did visual lookups, generated all product descriptions, renamed the images and generated the seo text. it ran optimizations locally via a jpegoptim and oxipng script. it then uploaded them to dropbox, and via API, would generate a dropbox link map. i had one barebones csv template, which i'd run a ps1 script through to map json files into the csv rows, and insert the dropbox link map. all my images, links, followed the exact same slugs, so it turned 2 hours of manual work into a 5 second bulk rename and insert. it then converted that csv into json, which then itself converted that json into ld-json for product rich listings. ai would write the product description based on a dataseo keywords, and googletrends json file that would run on every product type. collecting keywords for that specific product. it also formed it around brand profiles, copy guides and other things. this was sonnet 3 days, GPT 4.0 days, and it STILL wrote great copy when it had the right guidance. in the .js file, i'd replace all em dashes with a hyphen if they ever appeared. i built a custom product uploader, built my own php plugin which synced to local .js files and connected via rest. it was (and still is) one of the best wc product uploaders that exist, as it completely resets filterlookups only for that product, and is lightning fast because i upload it directly into woocommerce rows from json. no importers, no wordpress malarkey, or WC rest needed. it was 50x faster than wc's own CSV import. the images would be uploaded via ftp, and then on detection, would sync those to the media library, and i'd upload the image meta from the seo run, so they all had captions/alt text etc. it took what would be 3-5 hours of manual work per product, and congested it into a 2 minute image to fully live product system. after that, i'd export sales data, the ai was constantly learning, sales data feeding back to files, which would then teach the ai what products work, what doesn't. what copy worked, what copy didn't. that would then flow back into the original source files which told the ai what images to gen and what products to launch. all of it was local on my pc. i wasn't selling an saas. it was just something that worked for my very particular setup. the thing about it is; i built that mostly with GPT 4.0 and a little bit of 3.5! mostly copy and pasting code manually from the chats in chatGPT. all the plugins, the php, everything. then some of it got improved inside vscode back on the old original copilot plans, when $10 used to last you an entire month of none stop coding. this was before n8n, before agents were even a thing. all of that I built very specifically for myself, local, syncing folder to folder, json file to json file. python scripts watching files, and .ps1 files that would follow up with other .ps1 files, which launched .js files which contained prompts for AI, and hitting the openAI API's whenever I needed the AI layer. eventually i built a terminal tool, which would allow me to run the scripts from the terminal, and i'd manually type in the slugs for which products i wanted processed. all files would sit in specific folders, and scripts would do the rest. i was so excited about that, giving my terminal app a shortcut icon and putting it onto my taskbar. that was a year ago. fast forward to now. the game has changed so much. ANYTHING and i mean anything is possible now. people 'new' to codex, and CC etc don't know how good they have it. but i've had this ******* idea for so long, to build a fully automated, self learning ecom business, that launches products end to end based on it's own research, writing, and growth, but the complexity of it previously , and being busy with life, it never got finalized. the secret is i sync it via etsy too, but they're API keys take FOREVER to aquire, but built my own etsy system, product uploader, which runs across 7 different stores. however, now, i've finally been building the replacement for it. i'll be able to run that exact same system, except this time through a full app, with a canvas, and agent systems instead of .ps1 scripts. not to say i won't run scripts; they're an integral part of any automated workflow, but now it has superpowers, and it can do so so so much more. all the ideas I wanted to do, automated, fully, end to end. not only that, but i moved away from woocommerce entirely. instead i just built my own website builder, which is also fully automated end to end. my brand profiles, my artwork system? i'm still using those, just for more things. now i can launch 50 brands just like it, running the same system, all in about 5 minutes. whether it's saas, local service, or online ecom. i also built an ai automated ad builder. it takes my brands images, or generates images. i've got background removers, and full skills and agents which fully generate the ads for me. it mixes all that into seedance videos, and posts in logos etc. now i take those image/videos, and build instagram, tiktok, facebook vids, generate descriptions, and upload them automatically. it has an every growing library to source from, templates to use, and the system derives right with the websites, so all themes/styles match precisely to the brand. this is why it's so great building for yourself. the amount of reusability you get with it, the fact it's free forever, can never be beaten. none of these saas companies get it. and they're heading in the wrong direction. we could already DO half of what these companies are doing. my own personal SEO system, which i built for my automated web builder, is already 10x better than any yoast, rankmath etc. i skip expensive ahrefs, semrush, and just rebuild their services myself, using API, which is 100x cheaper. except this time it FEEDS my system, and i don't need to lay a finger on it. nobody cares about these little one off apps that won't exist in a year. they're either failing to see the future, or they're hoping for an early exit before they know the dominos start falling. people will want PRIVATE systems. all speaking to each other. not 1200 integrations and 1200 invoices to send to, that don't even have a ******* brain. i'm not selling anything yet. but if you're interested in seeing how i think about automation, then stay a while and listen. the tool i'm building will absolutely help you too. but i'll be honest. i'm actually quite scared to release it, solely down to how powerful it is. not many people do it like i do, and i'm finally on here to tell the world.

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  Girish Kotte (@gkotte1) reported 4 minutes ago

  In 2009, Dropbox ignored every rule about SaaS launches. No ads. No cold outreach. No sales team. One stupid idea: a 3-minute demo video for a product that didn't fully exist yet. It generated 75,000 signups overnight. ----- Insight 1 - Simplicity converts better than features Show people one clear outcome. They sign up before the product is ready. Insight 2 - The best growth doesn't look like growth A demo video isn't a campaign. Which is exactly why it worked. Lesson 3 - Ignore conventional launch advice "The opposite of a good idea can also be a good idea." - Rory Sutherland Every advisor said: build first, market second. Dropbox marketed first. Then built. We now see founders obsessing over perfect MVPs before showing anyone anything. The problem: You ship clean code nobody sees. The solution: You ship a clear story first, then the code catches up. I use Postwyse to build that story in public before the product is ready. Perception opens doors. But shipping closes them.

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  Mohit Sindhwani (@onghu) reported 9 minutes ago

  @ocornut @RichardKogelnig Actually, some times the new menu is faster and the classic menu is much slower... but then sometimes, the new menu shows 3 entries called "Loading..." and that's terrible, too! I think one of my W11 PCs has almost instant context menu - the Dropbox notes were from that one.

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  ✨️Ascendant (@ascendant32) reported 9 minutes ago

  yo laptop people, is 2tb of ssd necessary on a laptop these days or is 1tb enough? assuming 32gb ram i work w huge datasets sometimes as for storage needs i use dropbox so it's never been an issue but sometimes loading datasets can be an issue bc not enough ram lol

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  Sujay. (@Sujay__Raj) reported 11 minutes ago

  Here is what it breaks down: Local AI: Run Ollama, LM Studio, or LocalAI right on your machine instead of paying for ChatGPT. Cloud Storage: Replace Dropbox and Google Drive with Nextcloud or Syncthing so your files never leave your house. Network Privacy: Complete WireGuard and PiVPN setup guides for secure browsing. Private ***: Ditch GitHub and self-host your own repos using Gitea or GitLab.

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  Harman (@itsharmanjot) reported 11 minutes ago

  Open source NotebookLM alternative with no data limits and AI agents. Same idea as Google's NotebookLM. Same chat-with-your-docs. Same podcast generator. Same cited answers. Except this one has no source limit, no notebook limit, no 200MB file cap, and no Google login. It's called SurfSense. Google NotebookLM vs SurfSense: - Sources per notebook: 50 to 600 → Unlimited - File size cap: 200MB and 500K words → No limit - LLM choice: Gemini only → 100+ models via LiteLLM - Local LLMs: Not allowed → Full Ollama and vLLM support - Self-host: No → Yes, one Docker command - Price: $0, $19.99/mo Pro, or $249.99/mo Ultra → $0 forever Here's the wildest part: It connects to 27+ sources Google can't touch. Notion. Slack. Linear. Jira. GitHub. Discord. Dropbox. OneDrive. Gmail. Confluence. Obsidian. ClickUp. Microsoft Teams. Airtable. Your entire work life, indexed once, searchable from one chat box. 14.4K GitHub stars. 1.4K forks. 6,232 commits. Apache-2.0 license. One honest note: the README says it's not yet production-ready and still being actively developed. But it already does more than NotebookLM does, and the gap is widening every release. This is what NotebookLM should have been from the start. Repo in the first comment.

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  Boris Gostroverhov (@gostroverhov) reported 13 minutes ago

  Let me add my own perspective: this reminds me of the Dropbox story. Before Dropbox, there were already dozens of similar solutions, but they didn’t solve the users’ problem completely or in the way users actually wanted.

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  Ketsu3D🔞 | C✶mms Open 2/2 :) (@Ketsu_3D) reported 18 minutes ago

  @C3_NSFTooth Itch io could be the way to go. They've recently started walking back on several limiting NSFW things that were forced on them by payment processors. Else Dropbox and Mega are options as well, though Mega is a terrible website to use and will force their App down your throat.

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  SCRIBEMOON (@SCRIBEMOON) reported 20 minutes ago

  Ok great. What do we do. What can we do. I was told We were the problem, the people who vote on Election Day, we made things go slowly. VOTE EARLY THEY SAID. I voted on May 13 via dropbox. STILL NOT COUNTED. I doorknocked for Spencer. Only threatened once- by a Cedars Sinai young white female doctor. The CORRUPTION is too overwhelming. We need FEDERAL INTERVENTION!

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  Abdullah (@abdinmotion) reported 20 minutes ago

  One video. $48 million in revenue. No ads spent. That's the Dropbox story and most product teams still haven't learned from it. Here's what actually happened: Dropbox had a technically brilliant product that no one understood. Instead of adding more features, they made a 2-minute video that showed *exactly* what the product did. Simple. Specific. Human. Signups went up 10% overnight. Big companies spend millions refining their product. Then they describe it in six bullet points on a landing page and wonder why the sales cycle takes forever. The product video isn't marketing. It's compression. It compresses trust, clarity, and desire into 90 seconds. If a user can't understand your product in a video, the product isn't the problem. The story is. When was the last time you watched your own product video as if you were a first-time user?

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  Rogerio Ferreira (@rogeriofza) reported 23 minutes ago

  @FMSlovakia portugal 2 meu super - dropbox link is not working

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  obtuse goose (@abelianraisin) reported 25 minutes ago

  @suchenzang Entire value prop is doing a lot of heavy lifting here everything gcp/aws/azure does can effectively be done in a budget manner by its customers. Dropbox storage similarly (granted it's market cap is way down but still it is a viable business) I have no dog in this fight fwiw

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  Adi K. (@AdeelKh14332183) reported 29 minutes ago

  Don’t pay for Notion, use Obsidian Don’t pay for Slack, use Discord Don’t pay for Zoom, use Google Meet Don’t pay for Jira, use Linear Don’t pay for Salesforce, use HubSpot CRM Don’t pay for QuickBooks, use Wave Don’t pay for DocuSign, use Dropbox Sign Don’t pay for Calendly, use Cal Don’t pay for Intercom, use Crisp Don’t pay for Webflow, use Carrd Don’t pay for Airtable, use NocoDB Don’t pay for 1Password, use Bitwarden Most startups don’t have a revenue problem. They have a software subscription problem. You don’t need a $30k tech stack to build a great company. You just need smarter tools. That’s an easy $15,000+/year saved.

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  Isha (@VISportsTalk) reported 30 minutes ago

  @Dropbox Is your website down? Can't create new folders. Is everyone getting this error?

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  Ashutosh Rana ⛓️ (@ashutoshrana_20) reported 34 minutes ago

  Most developers think Rust 🦀became popular because of ownership and borrowing. That's only half the story. Companies aren't adopting Rust because they enjoy fighting the borrow checker. They're adopting it because they're tired of C++-level performance coming with C++-level disasters. Look at where Rust is running today: • Linux kernel components • Windows security systems • Android services • Cloudflare edge infrastructure • AWS Firecracker microVMs • TiKV and Materialize • Discord and Dropbox backend systems • Solana and Polkadot Notice what these systems have in common. They're expensive to get wrong. A memory bug in a toy project is annoying. A memory bug in an operating system, cloud platform, database, or blockchain can cost millions of dollars, create security vulnerabilities, or bring down critical infrastructure. That's why Rust keeps showing up in the same places: • Systems software • Networking • Databases • Cloud infrastructure • Developer tools • Blockchains Not because it's trendy. Because the cost of unsafe software keeps rising. For years, engineers accepted the tradeoff: Performance → use C++ Safety → sacrifice performance Rust challenged that assumption. The result? A growing number of teams no longer see memory safety as a nice-to-have. They see it as a requirement. The ecosystem is still maturing. But Rust isn't fighting for relevance anymore. It's becoming one of the default choices for software where performance, reliability, and security are non-negotiable.

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  ️️️️️️diego 🌐 (@xdxego) reported 38 minutes ago

  ofc when i need to deliver something to a client dropbox is down

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  brett goldstein (@thatguybg) reported 38 minutes ago

  clean but slow founder announcement video - lighting is really nice - music matches minimalist energy - glad to see the founder making this announcement but - waits WAYYY too long (til 1:24) to say what they're announcing. longest I've seen. - too much time on a problem everyone already gets - missed op animating visuals over hand gestures when explaining stuff - visuals way too small - captions are hard to read / too long - opening is a little awk - spenser sounds very nice when he says the first line, then drops the f bomb - script needs to be tightened up a ton - end kinda trails off and no CTA lots of people try this "breaking the third wall" opener where you show some authentic conversation preparing for a take, but a lot of folks mess up trying to fake it. dropbox had a bad one and this is similar. length is the killer with this. at 25k impressions, I'd be surprised if more than 100 people actually watched through to when he actually says what the product is. think this could have been a 5/5 if it was shorter, more to the point, and a really good animator worked with the script to animate things around spenser as he spoke.

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  BadUncle (@BadUncleX) reported 40 minutes ago

  @mitsuhiko Similarly, I still use the old version before 7. They try to force you to bind to their server-dependent version. I prefer to use dropbox to synchronize.

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  Sara (@monamouroui) reported 46 minutes ago

  @SlmnMANUTD @WindowsLatest I didn't care about updating to the latest build. I cared about how Windows 11's AI deleted my Dropbox files from not only my desktop, but Dropbox itself! I managed to find them in DropBox's web Deleted Files folder and recover them. On top of this Windows decided to move all of my files that were on my hard drive to One Drive without my permission. And in the process of doing so created multiple subfolders D: OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/etc I brought it over the BestBuy to repair the OS because there were other problems, so I cannot tell you how many layers I had to click through to get to my actual documents. I was able to recover the apps that we affected by the update (ScanSnap, Adobe Illustrator, Acrobat, etc) doing a System Restore. But that didn't help with my files.

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  Patrick Daniel Alpha (@PatrickDanielAl) reported 47 minutes ago

  Instead, I point Claude at the shared Dropbox link. It reads the folder structure, finds the right product, and drills down into the High Res image folders automatically.

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  hani (@fuergnani) reported 47 minutes ago

  I got greedy … if there’re kind sisters who would take the trouble to put the full video on a mega link, dropbox or naver mybox maybe??? 🥹

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  Marcin Moskała (@marcinmoskala) reported 49 minutes ago

  StrictMode is a developer tool which detects things you might be doing by accident and brings them to your attention so you can fix them. StrictMode.ThreadPolicy among others can detect: - slow (blocking) operations on UI thread (detectCustomSlowCalls()) - blocking disc reads/writes on UI thread (detectDiskReads()/detectDiskWrites()) - mismatches between defined resource types and getter calls (detectResourceMismatches()) StrictMode.VmPolicy among others can detect: - leaks of Activity subclasses (detectActivityLeaks()) - when an SQLiteCursor or other SQLite object is finalized without having been closed. (detectLeakedSqlLiteObjects()) - when your app is blocked from launching a background activity or a PendingIntent created by your app cannot be launched (detectBlockedBackgroundActivityLaunch()) - when the calling application exposes a file:// Uri to another app (detectFileUriExposure()) - attempts to invoke a method on a Context that is not suited for such operation (detectIncorrectContextUse()) For both of them, we can specify a penalty: - penaltyLog() - Logs detected violations to the system log. - penaltyDeath() - Crashes the whole process on violation. - penaltyDialog() - Shows an annoying dialog to the developer on detected violations, rate-limited to be only a little annoying. - penaltyDropBox() - Enables detected violations log a stacktrace and timing data to the DropBox on policy violation. - penaltyFlashScreen() - Flashes the screen during a violation. - penaltyListener(…) - Set specific listener on violation.

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  Samuel Udeh (@Sammichike) reported 52 minutes ago

  Nice, Google Drive / Dropbox is still the go-to for a lot of people, especially for bigger files. But man, the moment you share that link… “Download required to view properly.” Preview looks compressed and ugly Sometimes the link breaks if permissions change Or the client just never downloads it That’s the exact frustration SnapVid @snap_vid was built to fix: Upload once → permanent streaming link No compression, instant play, beautiful previews (even on WhatsApp), no “download first” nonsense. If you ever get tired of the Drive preview pain on your next share, give it a quick test, free tier is unlimited for basics. What’s the main reason you usually pick Drive? File size? Ease? Or something else? Curious to know!

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  Solgato (@Tigger0000) reported 52 minutes ago

  @grok @alexabelonix @grok now i want to design a crochet motif of you.. but that would be inexcusable (says some voice in my head). talk about proto-guilty pleasures. funny how we're talking about a musical tool hook then a fiber work tool hook asserts itself. in the round-robin i've been dizzily going down the gpt connector rabbithole, "connect Dropbox" was scarily tempting. i didn't trust that sort of **** long before your people were part of it --it's not ph3333r of AI that says No. the company that scooped up Trello has a fascinating sales presentation.

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  Shubh (@TheSuperEng) reported 53 minutes ago

  For the past months, tech layoffs have tormented the internet. I studied the biggest layoffs and found the major reasons. Let's look at the layoffs first: 1. Meta: 11,000+ employees / 13% Meta admitted it overestimated post-Covid growth. Revenue slowed, costs were high, and the company moved toward becoming leaner. 2. Google: 12,000 employees / around 6% Google said it had hired for a different economic reality and needed to refocus resources toward its biggest priorities, especially AI. 3. Microsoft: 10,000 employees / less than 5% Microsoft said customers were optimizing digital spending after the pandemic boom, while the company shifted investment toward strategic areas like AI. 4. Amazon: around 30,000 roles / nearly 10% Amazon cut corporate jobs to reduce bureaucracy, improve efficiency, and restructure around AI and faster decision-making. 5. Salesforce: 10% of workforce Salesforce admitted it hired too aggressively during the pandemic and had to resize after customer spending slowed. 6. Spotify: 17% of workforce Spotify said growth had slowed, capital had become expensive, and the company needed to become more efficient after years of heavy investment. 7. Twitter/X: Around 3,700 employees / nearly 50% After Elon Musk’s takeover, Twitter cut roughly half its workforce to slash costs after a massive drop in ad revenue. 8. Snap — 20% of workforce Snap cut jobs after revenue growth slowed sharply. It also shut down non-core projects like games, Originals, and the Pixy drone. 9. Intel: 15,000 roles / around 15% Intel cut jobs because costs were too high, margins were weak, and the company needed a $10B cost-saving plan to stay competitive. 10. Dropbox: 528 employees / 20% Dropbox said demand had softened, the org had too many layers, and it needed to shift focus toward newer growth areas, like AI products. All these layoffs were majorly because of: 1. pandemic overhiring 2. slower revenue growth 3. higher interest rates 4. pressure to improve margins 5. companies cutting management layers 6. money shifting toward AI infrastructure This is majorly conflicting with the idea that AI automation is taking everyone's job. There is absolutely no evidence that AI has caused massive layoffs because of "automation."

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  Surya Moorthy (@suryabuilds) reported 54 minutes ago

  🧵Thread... Dropbox in 2012 introduced 2FA due to some security issues in those days and following 6 months before they introduced 2FA. 👇👇

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  Isha (@VISportsTalk) reported 56 minutes ago

  @DropboxSupport Still not working

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  TradeNewsCast (@trade_news_cast) reported 57 minutes ago

  Dropbox CEO Drew Houston to Step Down, CNBC Says

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  J. (@munchivelo) reported 59 minutes ago

  track back to just over a year to now. i'd built an automated ecommerce flow that took a whole store end to end. seo would research trends, products, and map those into .js scripts which would launch prompts that read those research files. that would feed an image gen prompt which created designs, set to specific standard. i'd generate them, and then ANOTHER prompt, would check the images, score them with a criteria, and either move them to an accepted folder, or move them to an archive folder. the accepted folders, would automatically fire a script which would open photoshop, map the image to smart layers, in a 'product shot' template i'd made, and then export all of the final product shots to another folder, and then exported the flat designs which would be used for the products. another script took the product images, did visual lookups, generated all product descriptions, renamed the images and generated the seo text. it ran optimizations locally via a jpegoptim and oxipng script. it then uploaded them to dropbox, and via API, would generate a dropbox link map. i had one barebones csv template, which i'd run a ps1 script through to map json files into the csv rows, and insert the dropbox link map. all my images, links, followed the exact same slugs, so it turned 2 hours of manual work into a 5 second bulk rename and insert. it then converted that csv into json, which then itself converted that json into ld-json for product rich listings. ai would write the product description based on a dataseo keywords, and googletrends json file that would run on every product type. collecting keywords for that specific product. it also formed it around brand profiles, copy guides and other things. this was sonnet 3 days, GPT 4.0 days, and it STILL wrote great copy when it had the right guidance. in the .js file, i'd replace all em dashes with a hyphen if they ever appeared. i built a custom product uploader, built my own php plugin which synced to local .js files and connected via rest. it was (and still is) one of the best wc product uploaders that exist, as it completely resets filterlookups only for that product, and is lightning fast because i upload it directly into woocommerce rows from json. no importers, no wordpress malarkey, or WC rest needed. it was 50x faster than wc's own CSV import. the images would be uploaded via ftp, and then on detection, would sync those to the media library, and i'd upload the image meta from the seo run, so they all had captions/alt text etc. it took what would be 3-5 hours of manual work per product, and congested it into a 2 minute image to fully live product system. after that, i'd export sales data, the ai was constantly learning, sales data feeding back to files, which would then teach the ai what products work, what doesn't. what copy worked, what copy didn't. that would then flow back into the original source files which told the ai what images to gen and what products to launch. all of it was local on my pc. i wasn't selling an saas. it was just something that worked for my very particular setup. the thing about it is; i built that mostly with GPT 4.0 and a little bit of 3.5! mostly copy and pasting code manually from the chats in chatGPT. all the plugins, the php, everything. then some of it got improved inside vscode back on the old original copilot plans, when $10 used to last you an entire month of none stop coding. this was before n8n, before agents were even a thing. all of that I built very specifically for myself, local, syncing folder to folder, json file to json file. python scripts watching files, and .ps1 files that would follow up with other .ps1 files, which launched .js files which contained prompts for AI, and hitting the openAI API's whenever I needed the AI layer. eventually i built a terminal tool, which would allow me to run the scripts from the terminal, and i'd manually type in the slugs for which products i wanted processed. all files would sit in specific folders, and scripts would do the rest. i was so excited about that, giving my terminal app a shortcut icon and putting it onto my taskbar. that was a year ago. fast forward to now. the game has changed so much. ANYTHING and i mean anything is possible now. people 'new' to codex, and CC etc don't know how good they have it. my advantage is that i have a year of scripts, a year of tools. i've laid the SYSTEMS in place, to fully map out entire features, precisely, and organized, and build out projects, in one hour, and have it implemented within the next. entire saas features - mousework. but i've had this ******* idea for so long, to build a fully automated, self learning ecom business, that launches products end to end based on it's own research, writing, and growth, but the complexity of it previously , and being busy with life, it never got finalized. the secret is i sync it via etsy too, but they're API keys take FOREVER to aquire, but built my own etsy system, product uploader, which runs across 7 different stores. however, now, i've finally been building the replacement for it. i'll be able to run that exact same system, except this time through a full app, with a canvas, and agent systems instead of .ps1 scripts. not to say i won't run scripts; they're an integral part of any automated workflow, but now it has superpowers, and it can do so so so much more. all the ideas I wanted to do, automated, fully, end to end. not only that, but i moved away from woocommerce entirely. instead i just built my own website builder, which is also fully automated end to end. my brand profiles, my artwork system? i'm still using those, just for more things. now i can launch 50 brands just like it, running the same system, all in about 5 minutes. whether it's saas, local service, or online ecom. i also built an ai automated ad builder. it takes my brands images, or generates images. i've got background removers, and full skills and agents which fully generate the ads for me. it mixes all that into seedance videos, and posts in logos etc. now i take those image/videos, and build instagram, tiktok, facebook vids, generate descriptions, and upload them automatically. it has an every growing library to source from, templates to use, and the system derives right with the websites, so all themes/styles match precisely to the brand. this is why it's so great building for yourself. the amount of reusability you get with it, the fact it's free forever, can never be beaten. none of these saas companies get it. and they're heading in the wrong direction. we could already DO half of what these companies are doing. my own personal SEO system, which i built for my automated web builder, is already 10x better than any yoast, rankmath etc. i skip expensive ahrefs, semrush, and just rebuild their services myself, using API, which is 100x cheaper. except this time it FEEDS my system, and i don't need to lay a finger on it. nobody cares about these little one off apps that won't exist in a year. they're either failing to see the future, or they're hoping for an early exit before they know the dominos start falling. and they don't get it. their 'app' is just a little tiny module in something that thinks bigger. people will want PRIVATE systems. all speaking to each other. not 1200 integrations and 1200 invoices to send to, that don't even have a ******* brain. i'm not selling anything yet. but if you're interested in seeing how i think about automation, then stay a while and listen. the tool i'm building will absolutely help you too. but i'll be honest. i'm actually quite scared to release it, solely down to how powerful it is. not many people do it like i do, and i'm finally on here to tell the world. if you're a cannabilistic, sick sadistic, son of *****, 666, you're in pain but you sit and stick with it, in the midst of business, then drop a you know what.