Dropbox status: access issues and outage reports

Problems in the last 24 hours

The graph below depicts the number of Dropbox reports received over the last 24 hours by time of day. When the number of reports exceeds the baseline, represented by the red line, an outage is determined.

Most Reported Problems

The following are the most recent problems reported by Dropbox users through our website.

• Errors (50%)
• Sign in (38%)
• Website Down (13%)

Live Outage Map

The most recent Dropbox outage reports came from the following cities:

City	Problem Type	Report Time
Bournemouth	Sign in	17 days ago
Paramaribo	Errors	1 month ago
Bogotá	Website Down	1 month ago
Auxerre	Errors	1 month ago
Salt Lake City	Sign in	2 months ago
Madrid	Errors	2 months ago

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Dropbox Issues Reports

Latest outage, problems and issue reports in social media:

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  Elias Al (@iam_elias1) reported 2 minutes ago

  Then the conversation took a turn. The technician pulled up Activity Monitor and showed him something: 23 apps were running in the background that the customer didn't have open. Adobe Creative Cloud. Spotify. Slack. Microsoft AutoUpdate. Dropbox. Google Drive sync. Three different "helper" apps installed during printer setup years ago. Each one was consuming small amounts of CPU, RAM, and battery cycles 24/7. The technician's words: "Your MacBook isn't slow because it's old. It's slow because it's running 23 jobs nobody hired it to do." System Settings → General → Login Items → look at the lists under both tabs → remove anything that doesn't need to launch automatically. The customer removed 18 of them on the spot.

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  Washington Report (@Washington_Rep) reported 2 minutes ago

  @BusinessInsider 📌 Dropbox founder Drew Houston is transitioning out of the CEO role, with Ashraf Alkarmi stepping in as co‑CEO before becoming sole chief executive. Houston will shift into an executive chairman position after a transition period in which he and Alkarmi share the co‑CEO title. 🧭 Leadership Transition: - Drew Houston is stepping down after nearly two decades leading Dropbox, moving into an executive chairman role following a period as co‑CEO with Ashraf Alkarmi. - Alkarmi, previously Dropbox’s head of product and general manager of its core business, becomes co‑CEO effective immediately and will later assume the role of sole CEO. 🧩 Background on Ashraf Alkarmi: - Joined Dropbox in late 2024 after senior product roles at Vimeo, Amazon (including Amazon Freevee), and Meta. - Credited internally with making Dropbox more responsive to customers and pushing for bolder product innovation. - Will receive an annual salary of $825,000, a target bonus equal to base salary, and $12.65M in restricted stock units vesting over several years. 📉 Company Context: - Dropbox’s market cap is just over $6 billion, roughly half its value at IPO in 2018. - Competition from Google, Apple, and Microsoft has pressured its core storage business, with revenue growth slowing to under 1% year‑over‑year. - The company reported $629.5M in Q1 2026 revenue and more than 18 million paying users. 🚀 Houston’s Next Chapter: - Houston, now 43, says his next move will be entrepreneurial and AI‑focused, not retirement.

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  Ketsu3D🔞 | C✶mms Open 2/2 :) (@Ketsu_3D) reported 4 minutes ago

  @C3_NSFTooth Itch io could be the way to go. They've recently started walking back on several limiting NSFW things that were forced on them by payment processors. Else Dropbox and Mega are options as well, though Mega is a terrible website to use and will force their App down your throat.

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  Arythick-Ft$🍑💦 (@feyza_esnkya) reported 12 minutes ago

  Hold my head down on the **** till I can’t breathe! 😩🍆 Full video available on Dropbox 🔥👀

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  Sara (@monamouroui) reported 14 minutes ago

  @SlmnMANUTD @WindowsLatest I didn't care about updating to the latest build. I cared about how Windows 11's AI deleted my Dropbox files from not only my desktop, but Dropbox itself! I managed to find them in DropBox's web Deleted Files folder and recover them. On top of this Windows decided to move all of my files that were on my hard drive to One Drive without my permission. And in the process of doing so created multiple subfolders D: OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/OneDrive/My Documents/etc I brought it over the BestBuy to repair the OS because there were other problems, so I cannot tell you how many layers I had to click through to get to my actual documents. I was able to recover the apps that we affected by the update (ScanSnap, Adobe Illustrator, Acrobat, etc) doing a System Restore. But that didn't help with my files.

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  Stone Kidman Writes (@StoneKidman) reported 16 minutes ago

  @AyakaMods I had this problem that's why I use Dropbox

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  J. (@munchivelo) reported 21 minutes ago

  track back to just over a year to now. i'd built an automated ecommerce flow that took a whole store end to end. seo would research trends, products, and map those into .js scripts which would launch prompts that read those research files. that would feed an image gen prompt which created designs, set to specific standard. i'd generate them, and then ANOTHER prompt, would check the images, score them with a criteria, and either move them to an accepted folder, or move them to an archive folder. the accepted folders, would automatically fire a script which would open photoshop, map the image to smart layers, in a 'product shot' template i'd made, and then export all of the final product shots to another folder, and then exported the flat designs which would be used for the products. another script took the product images, did visual lookups, generated all product descriptions, renamed the images and generated the seo text. it ran optimizations locally via a jpegoptim and oxipng script. it then uploaded them to dropbox, and via API, would generate a dropbox link map. i had one barebones csv template, which i'd run a ps1 script through to map json files into the csv rows, and insert the dropbox link map. all my images, links, followed the exact same slugs, so it turned 2 hours of manual work into a 5 second bulk rename and insert. it then converted that csv into json, which then itself converted that json into ld-json for product rich listings. ai would write the product description based on a dataseo keywords, and googletrends json file that would run on every product type. collecting keywords for that specific product. it also formed it around brand profiles, copy guides and other things. this was sonnet 3 days, GPT 4.0 days, and it STILL wrote great copy when it had the right guidance. in the .js file, i'd replace all em dashes with a hyphen if they ever appeared. i built a custom product uploader, built my own php plugin which synced to local .js files and connected via rest. it was (and still is) one of the best wc product uploaders that exist, as it completely resets filterlookups only for that product, and is lightning fast because i upload it directly into woocommerce rows from json. no importers, no wordpress malarkey, or WC rest needed. it was 50x faster than wc's own CSV import. the images would be uploaded via ftp, and then on detection, would sync those to the media library, and i'd upload the image meta from the seo run, so they all had captions/alt text etc. it took what would be 3-5 hours of manual work per product, and congested it into a 2 minute image to fully live product system. after that, i'd export sales data, the ai was constantly learning, sales data feeding back to files, which would then teach the ai what products work, what doesn't. what copy worked, what copy didn't. that would then flow back into the original source files which told the ai what images to gen and what products to launch. all of it was local on my pc. i wasn't selling an saas. it was just something that worked for my very particular setup. the thing about it is; i built that mostly with GPT 4.0 and a little bit of 3.5! mostly copy and pasting code manually from the chats in chatGPT. all the plugins, the php, everything. then some of it got improved inside vscode back on the old original copilot plans, when $10 used to last you an entire month of none stop coding. this was before n8n, before agents were even a thing. all of that I built very specifically for myself, local, syncing folder to folder, json file to json file. python scripts watching files, and .ps1 files that would follow up with other .ps1 files, which launched .js files which contained prompts for AI, and hitting the openAI API's whenever I needed the AI layer. eventually i built a terminal tool, which would allow me to run the scripts from the terminal, and i'd manually type in the slugs for which products i wanted processed. all files would sit in specific folders, and scripts would do the rest. i was so excited about that, giving my terminal app a shortcut icon and putting it onto my taskbar. that was a year ago. fast forward to now. the game has changed so much. ANYTHING and i mean anything is possible now. people 'new' to codex, and CC etc don't know how good they have it. my advantage is that i have a year of scripts, a year of tools. i've laid the SYSTEMS in place, to fully map out entire features, precisely, and organized, and build out projects, in one hour, and have it implemented within the next. entire saas features - mousework. but i've had this ******* idea for so long, to build a fully automated, self learning ecom business, that launches products end to end based on it's own research, writing, and growth, but the complexity of it previously , and being busy with life, it never got finalized. the secret is i sync it via etsy too, but they're API keys take FOREVER to aquire, but built my own etsy system, product uploader, which runs across 7 different stores. however, now, i've finally been building the replacement for it. i'll be able to run that exact same system, except this time through a full app, with a canvas, and agent systems instead of .ps1 scripts. not to say i won't run scripts; they're an integral part of any automated workflow, but now it has superpowers, and it can do so so so much more. all the ideas I wanted to do, automated, fully, end to end. not only that, but i moved away from woocommerce entirely. instead i just built my own website builder, which is also fully automated end to end. my brand profiles, my artwork system? i'm still using those, just for more things. now i can launch 50 brands just like it, running the same system, all in about 5 minutes. whether it's saas, local service, or online ecom. i also built an ai automated ad builder. it takes my brands images, or generates images. i've got background removers, and full skills and agents which fully generate the ads for me. it mixes all that into seedance videos, and posts in logos etc. now i take those image/videos, and build instagram, tiktok, facebook vids, generate descriptions, and upload them automatically. it has an every growing library to source from, templates to use, and the system derives right with the websites, so all themes/styles match precisely to the brand. this is why it's so great building for yourself. the amount of reusability you get with it, the fact it's free forever, can never be beaten. none of these saas companies get it. and they're heading in the wrong direction. we could already DO half of what these companies are doing. my own personal SEO system, which i built for my automated web builder, is already 10x better than any yoast, rankmath etc. i skip expensive ahrefs, semrush, and just rebuild their services myself, using API, which is 100x cheaper. except this time it FEEDS my system, and i don't need to lay a finger on it. nobody cares about these little one off apps that won't exist in a year. they're either failing to see the future, or they're hoping for an early exit before they know the dominos start falling. and they don't get it. their 'app' is just a little tiny module in something that thinks bigger. people will want PRIVATE systems. all speaking to each other. not 1200 integrations and 1200 invoices to send to, that don't even have a ******* brain. i'm not selling anything yet. but if you're interested in seeing how i think about automation, then stay a while and listen. the tool i'm building will absolutely help you too. but i'll be honest. i'm actually quite scared to release it, solely down to how powerful it is. not many people do it like i do, and i'm finally on here to tell the world. the only winners will be the ones prepared for cannabilism. ready for war. they call it war rooms, yet they sit around eating donuts provided by their VC's. real builders sit in the dark, in empty rooms, grinding. if you're a cannabilistic, sick sadistic, son of *****, 666, with an idea. then drop a you know what.

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  yera. (@1stplaceee__) reported 25 minutes ago

  You down for my nasty FaceTime and Dropbox video HMU📨📥💦🍑

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  Pixelhop (@pixelhopio) reported 26 minutes ago

  Notion is a walled garden where external AI agents go to die. Don't get me wrong: we've been huge Notion fans for years. Our entire company lived there: dashboards, notes, projects, our collective brain. It was perfect for humans, but then the Agent Era hit and everything changed. We now work with coding agents like Claude Code every single day, and that is where the friction started. Trying to get external agents to talk to proprietary blocks via a slow API is a total nightmare. The rate limits are painful and the structure is just too rigid for an agent to be efficient. We needed that polished Notion feel without the proprietary bloat holding our agents back. So we built Treehouse: a tool that is essentially Notion meets Dropbox. Treehouse is a web-based viewer for a local folder on your computer. The magic is that the folder is automatically synced across your whole team, kind of like a shared drive with a beautiful face. There is no proprietary database: just your files on your disk, exactly where they belong. Because it is just a folder, your AI agents can talk to it directly at lightning speed. No API rate limits or slow responses. I can ask an agent in my terminal to build an HTML page locally and have it render for the team instantly. Reclaiming your data doesn't mean sacrificing aesthetics. We built in advanced theming and custom CSS support: you can even have your agent rebrand your entire workspace for you. Notion was built for humans. In an AI world, we need high-speed playgrounds, not walled gardens. We are planning to open source Treehouse soon. If you want to reclaim your data, let us know! We wrote a blog post about it below 👇

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  Colin Turner (@ColinTurnerTN66) reported 26 minutes ago

  @pinutos @AZAGMayes The Recorder can do that. Security is far too lax on the dropbox/early voting system and the board has shown no initiative to fix the problem. Looking forward to the suit.

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  Harman (@itsharmanjot) reported 29 minutes ago

  Open source NotebookLM alternative with no data limits and AI agents. Same idea as Google's NotebookLM. Same chat-with-your-docs. Same podcast generator. Same cited answers. Except this one has no source limit, no notebook limit, no 200MB file cap, and no Google login. It's called SurfSense. Google NotebookLM vs SurfSense: - Sources per notebook: 50 to 600 → Unlimited - File size cap: 200MB and 500K words → No limit - LLM choice: Gemini only → 100+ models via LiteLLM - Local LLMs: Not allowed → Full Ollama and vLLM support - Self-host: No → Yes, one Docker command - Price: $0, $19.99/mo Pro, or $249.99/mo Ultra → $0 forever Here's the wildest part: It connects to 27+ sources Google can't touch. Notion. Slack. Linear. Jira. GitHub. Discord. Dropbox. OneDrive. Gmail. Confluence. Obsidian. ClickUp. Microsoft Teams. Airtable. Your entire work life, indexed once, searchable from one chat box. 14.4K GitHub stars. 1.4K forks. 6,232 commits. Apache-2.0 license. One honest note: the README says it's not yet production-ready and still being actively developed. But it already does more than NotebookLM does, and the gap is widening every release. This is what NotebookLM should have been from the start. Repo in the first comment.

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  SCRIBEMOON (@SCRIBEMOON) reported 32 minutes ago

  Ok great. What do we do. What can we do. I was told We were the problem, the people who vote on Election Day, we made things go slowly. VOTE EARLY THEY SAID. I voted on May 13 via dropbox. STILL NOT COUNTED. I doorknocked for Spencer. Only threatened once- by a Cedars Sinai young white female doctor. The CORRUPTION is too overwhelming. We need FEDERAL INTERVENTION!

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  JasonFrostPhoto (@rootbeerphoto) reported 33 minutes ago

  @DropboxSupport What? My problem was not about camera uploads.

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  Jeff Preshing (@preshing) reported 37 minutes ago

  What's the point of using smarter models if "smarter" means 10% better at finding obscure bugs and having a sassy attitude? Most of the true productivity gains that coding agents have to offer, which are finite, can be obtained using open-weight models for literally 1/100 of the price. The catch is that you actually need to understand the code you are working on. At the same time, I still think there's a viable business serving proprietary models. People are willing to pay for Dropbox even though FTP is free, and it's nice to throw a tough problem at a stronger model occasionally (if intellectual property limitations allow it). Plus, there's a whole frontier productizing this stuff. Unfortunately, Anthropic is currently in the business of spreading tall tales about future improvements, then shaking down enterprise customers. Most of it is based on 2010s LessWrong posts full of category errors, some of which I remember reading back in those days. And their recent hostility toward users in the name of safety is a result of the same ideological recklessness.

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  🎀MONA MANIC🧸 (@mona_maniccc) reported 37 minutes ago

  My new Dropbox link is out 1 terabyte dm if you are down 💞

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  Waldemar Santos (@wsantos99) reported 38 minutes ago

  @DropboxSupport Hello, I have already sent two emails regarding a problem I’m having with my account, but I haven’t received any response. How can I get assistance with this issue? Thank you.

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  Orewin1990.bsky.social (@Yoshiwi2) reported 39 minutes ago

  Okay, I think I've settled for an idea. I'll probably create an Dropbox account and upload all NSFW stuff there. Everyone who's interested in getting a link, once it's there, drop an comment down here. Won't be free tho. Around 10ish € a month

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  Girish Kotte (@gkotte1) reported 42 minutes ago

  In 2009, Dropbox ignored every rule about SaaS launches. No ads. No cold outreach. No sales team. One stupid idea: a 3-minute demo video for a product that didn't fully exist yet. It generated 75,000 signups overnight. ----- Insight 1 - Simplicity converts better than features Show people one clear outcome. They sign up before the product is ready. Insight 2 - The best growth doesn't look like growth A demo video isn't a campaign. Which is exactly why it worked. Lesson 3 - Ignore conventional launch advice "The opposite of a good idea can also be a good idea." - Rory Sutherland Every advisor said: build first, market second. Dropbox marketed first. Then built. We now see founders obsessing over perfect MVPs before showing anyone anything. The problem: You ship clean code nobody sees. The solution: You ship a clear story first, then the code catches up. I use Postwyse to build that story in public before the product is ready. Perception opens doors. But shipping closes them.

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  Jody (@Jody28391214234) reported 42 minutes ago

  @sarahadams @BenghaziAttacks @BentonDave28405 Same with me Sarah - running into trouble trying just to get the report from DropBox. Help.

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  Brent Lollis (@BLollis) reported 44 minutes ago

  @maebatsu @wimmiebear Is there a new link for this version? The Dropbox and Google drive ones are not working for me

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  Lagoon Labs (@LagoonLabsMv) reported 45 minutes ago

  Dropbox is doubling down on virtual-first while everyone else pushes return to office - their people chief says hybrid is the worst of all worlds.

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  Shubh (@TheSuperEng) reported 46 minutes ago

  For the past months, tech layoffs have tormented the internet. I studied the biggest layoffs and found the major reasons. Let's look at the layoffs first: 1. Meta: 11,000+ employees / 13% Meta admitted it overestimated post-Covid growth. Revenue slowed, costs were high, and the company moved toward becoming leaner. 2. Google: 12,000 employees / around 6% Google said it had hired for a different economic reality and needed to refocus resources toward its biggest priorities, especially AI. 3. Microsoft: 10,000 employees / less than 5% Microsoft said customers were optimizing digital spending after the pandemic boom, while the company shifted investment toward strategic areas like AI. 4. Amazon: around 30,000 roles / nearly 10% Amazon cut corporate jobs to reduce bureaucracy, improve efficiency, and restructure around AI and faster decision-making. 5. Salesforce: 10% of workforce Salesforce admitted it hired too aggressively during the pandemic and had to resize after customer spending slowed. 6. Spotify: 17% of workforce Spotify said growth had slowed, capital had become expensive, and the company needed to become more efficient after years of heavy investment. 7. Twitter/X: Around 3,700 employees / nearly 50% After Elon Musk’s takeover, Twitter cut roughly half its workforce to slash costs after a massive drop in ad revenue. 8. Snap — 20% of workforce Snap cut jobs after revenue growth slowed sharply. It also shut down non-core projects like games, Originals, and the Pixy drone. 9. Intel: 15,000 roles / around 15% Intel cut jobs because costs were too high, margins were weak, and the company needed a $10B cost-saving plan to stay competitive. 10. Dropbox: 528 employees / 20% Dropbox said demand had softened, the org had too many layers, and it needed to shift focus toward newer growth areas, like AI products. All these layoffs were majorly because of: 1. pandemic overhiring 2. slower revenue growth 3. higher interest rates 4. pressure to improve margins 5. companies cutting management layers 6. money shifting toward AI infrastructure This is majorly conflicting with the idea that AI automation is taking everyone's job. There is absolutely no evidence that AI has caused massive layoffs because of "automation."

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  mel 🩷 (@melodyymami) reported 49 minutes ago

  working on uploading, dropbox must be down bc uploads keep failing. i’ve stayed up as long as i could and i’ll try again in the morning!

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  Smol (@SmolMacApp) reported 50 minutes ago

  Email attachment limits aren’t small. Your files are big. There’s a difference, and the fix is usually 10 seconds, not a Dropbox link.

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  Isha (@VISportsTalk) reported 54 minutes ago

  @DropboxSupport Still not working

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  Anuroop Kumar (@anuroopk4u) reported 54 minutes ago

  @jasonlk I remember as a teen, Dropbox set the standard. It was Dropbox, AirBnB, and Uber - as these “new economy” startups that were changing the world. Frankly speaking, Google Drive just started to do more for me and integrated easier sharing down the road. There was no value add I was getting from Dropbox once storage got commoditized.

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  Adam (@aclater) reported 55 minutes ago

  Hey @FedEx @fedexhelp - you've got the wrong address on a dropbox in alexandria, and I keep getting your angry customers and packages. Happy to work together to fix it? I can DM details.

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  🔆 j i k o ⋆₊ ‧ ˚⊹ 🏜️ (@lisey_ann) reported 58 minutes ago

  @joinautopilot @charliebilello I can see why a bunch of those are sagging (joke? Or maybe I'm not joking): - Snapchat is in decline, less users overall. - Streaming subscriptions are becoming too expensive to keep up w/ inflation - X likely sagging ever since its lead advertisers left - Dropbox: user usage declining? (I use Google drive, Mega) - Alibaba: Chinese knockoffs, not bound to survive long - doordash: getting too expensive, way too many fees whenever I've used it, even WITH the discounts - Roblox: declining corporate - Snap: declining user usage, they constantly advertise Snapchat+ and idk anyone who actually uses that - Facebook: meta's side hussles were failing (notable: metaverse shutdown) - coinbase: app is ALWAYS buggy, slow, Base wallet became infested with scam tokens with no way to report, I personally stopped using it for this reason - pinterest: we just have AI to put together mood boards now, Pinterest not needed - Uber: same fee problem as doordash plus majority of gig drivers in my experience are the same few Indian drivers - uipath: likely not keeping up with the AI agent competition - bumble: women are probably tired of it tbh - lyft: same problems as Uber and doordash I can't answer for some others because I'm not as familiar or just can't think of a reason why they have poorer returns, so I dunno.

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  Yaroslav (@yarslav) reported 59 minutes ago

  this post has been up for just about a day > 10+ leads for long-term packaging work > almost 200 new followers > impressions up across the whole account yet I declined every single lead I've never worked on a per-project basis, always valued long-term relationships but recently I decided to make it even more exclusive I keep the number of channels i work with deliberately VERY small so each one gets my full strategic attention but no matter how selective I am, this type of work has a ceiling I can only work with so many channels at once so I started building something bigger, that is beyond my time and solves a real problem all creators face youtube has become a real industry, with creators running teams of 5, 10, 15+ people but the tools haven't caught up everyone's still spreading their production across notion, slack, drive/dropbox, frame, and more tools just to run their channels because nothing was built specifically for youtube production until now. @feedzyio

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  Abhishek Singh (@0xlelouch_) reported 59 minutes ago

  Interviewer: design Dropbox file sync. I paused and asked what they meant by sync. Whole product? Or just the client protocol? Single user? Team shares? Offline edits? Large files? Mobile on spotty networks? End to end encryption? What’s the SLO for conflict rate and time to converge? Once we scoped it to single-user sync across devices with offline support, I wrote requirements: detect changes, upload deltas, download updates, handle conflicts, resumable transfers, and don’t melt the battery. Non-goals: shared folders and fine-grained permissions. APIs and data model next. I used a file ID stable across renames, plus per-file version and per-device cursor. Client calls: /changes?cursor=..., /upload_session/start, /upload_session/append, /upload_session/commit, /download?file_id&version, /ack?cursor. Server tables: file_metadata(file_id, user_id, path, type, size, content_hash, current_version), file_versions(file_id, version, blob_ref, created_at), device_state(device_id, user_id, last_cursor), and an append-only changelog(user_id, seq, file_id, version, op). Architecture: client has a watcher, a local state DB, and a sync loop. It batches changes, computes chunk hashes, uploads missing chunks, then commits a new version. Server side: metadata service, blob store (chunked, content-addressed), and a per-user change log that devices long-poll or stream. Push notifications help, but the cursor-based pull is the truth. Scaling: shard by user_id for metadata + changelog, store blobs in object storage, cache hot metadata, and keep uploads on pre-signed URLs so the metadata tier doesn’t become the data plane. Chunking makes big files resumable and dedupe-friendly, but it adds CPU and more metadata reads. Tradeoffs I called out: last-writer-wins is simple but loses intent; per-file version vectors are heavier but reduce false conflicts. Chunk size is a fight: 4MB reduces round trips, 1MB retries faster on bad networks. Long-polling is cheaper than WebSockets at scale but slower to react. Failure cases: client crashes mid-upload, so upload sessions must be idempotent and garbage-collected. Network ***** cause retry storms, so exponential backoff + jitter and server-side rate limits. Two devices edit offline, so create conflicted copies and surface it in the client. Silent data corruption, so verify hashes on every download and run background repair. Rename vs edit races, so operations are applied against file_id, not path, and changelog ordering is per user, not global