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  • nilsenist
    Paulius Eidukas (艾文) ☭ (@nilsenist) reported

    @RavenT1me Sorry about that! The hacked account asks to download a virus disguised as an "indie game". I've reported that both to Discord and Dropbox/GitHub/YouTube which help distribute the file. Hopefully that shuts down the hacker at least temporarily. Hope you get your account back!

  • CDaedlyn
    Karus Daedlyn *Cat Dad Era* (@CDaedlyn) reported

    @CantEverDie Keep making burner Gmail accounts and sign up for the free stuff. I jest, because that's terrible practice, although I did know an attorney IRL that would do that to daisy-chain those Dropbox sites. Infinite free storage, just in 2.5GB chunks.

  • 1stplaceee__
    yera. (@1stplaceee__) reported

    You down for my nasty FaceTime and Dropbox video HMU📨📥💦🍑

  • Madame_Lucifur
    . (@Madame_Lucifur) reported

    There are some people who feel entitled to have my Dropbox and honestly I don't give a **** how you feel. If there's no transaction in my bank account which leaves your email address then that's not my problem.

  • Afinetheorem
    Kevin A. Bryan (@Afinetheorem) reported

    @jbarro Especially because "you have to mail it in a week before the election or else drop it at an election site dropbox after that date" is a totally reasonable compromise done all over the US and world which would immediately fix the problem.

  • Blaz_Dao
    CHRISTOPHER BLAZ✨ (@Blaz_Dao) reported

    Walrus 🦭 and Walrus Memory explained in a lay man's understanding. Let's dive in: 1. What is" Walrus🦭" ?? Firstly, I want you to think of Walrus as a gaint decentralised hard drive built on Sui protocol or ecosystem. Walrus is trying to become the decentralized version of cloud storage services like Google Drive, Dropbox, or Amazon S3, but built for Web3. In a simple analogy, think of it like this; Google Drive vs Walrus With Google Drive, your files are stored on Google's servers and Google controls the storage. If Google removes a file or service, you're dependent on them. But, With Walrus🦭 it's a different case as your files are split into many pieces. Those pieces are stored across many independent storage providers in a cheap manner as no single company controls all of your data. And the most fascinating thing is as long as enough storage providers remain online, your files can be recovered whenever you want. 2. What is "Walrus memory"?? In plain English, Walrus memory is simply the storage space used to keep data on the Walrus network. That data can be:Images, Videos, Documents, NFT media, AI datasets, Website files, Backups etc. Why does it matter? Imagine a viral meme image on Sui. Normally, the blockchain only stores a reference to the image because storing the image itself would be too expensive. Most blockchains are good at storing transactions but terrible at storing large files. @WalrusProtocol is designed to store large amounts of data cheaply while remaining decentralized. ~BlazCares

  • zygar
    Ryan Zygar (@zygar) reported

    I am beginning to have issues with Dropbox hanging and my @NousResearch Hermes agent not being able to file @grok build confirmed. This is a new issue for months no issue now my agent filing and following up is hanging up. What’s everyone recommend for data management Mac Mini. This is new. No changes made by me.

  • quantzoid
    quantzoid (@quantzoid) reported

    @gurishsharma sorry, you're in YC to take down dropbox but you didn't know how to approve a PR on github? what?

  • vinvan
    Vincent van der Meulen (@vinvan) reported

    @zoink You sit down and open your laptop. It's time to put some design files in Dropbox for coworkers. And ****, you need to finish your hotspot prototype. Your browser is still open on this weird design tool you got access to. Google Docs for design? Cool, but it will never work.

  • heynavtoor
    Nav Toor (@heynavtoor) reported

    Setting 4: Kill background login items. Open System Settings → General → Login Items & Extensions. Look under "Allow in the Background." You'll see 15 to 40 items running constantly. Dropbox helpers. Google updaters. Microsoft Teams. Adobe Creative Cloud. Toggle off anything you don't use every day.

  • JuergenStrobel
    Jürgen Strobel (@JuergenStrobel) reported

    @Arthur_van_Pelt You claimed that Bitcoin has a problem for "storing arbitrary data". Photos on Dropbox is a trivial example. Now you're moving the goalposts to subjective, emotional criteria you can't even define well. How much data is "way too too much", and how does BIP 110 solve it?

  • _meshgear
    meshgear (@_meshgear) reported

    @Dropbox It is not working.

  • munchivelo
    J. (@munchivelo) reported

    track back to just over a year to now. i'd built an automated ecommerce flow that took a whole store end to end. seo would research trends, products, and map those into .js scripts which would launch prompts that read those research files. that would feed an image gen prompt which created designs, set to specific standard. i'd generate them, and then ANOTHER prompt, would check the images, score them with a criteria, and either move them to an accepted folder, or move them to an archive folder. the accepted folders, would automatically fire a script which would open photoshop, map the image to smart layers, in a 'product shot' template i'd made, and then export all of the final product shots to another folder, and then exported the flat designs which would be used for the products. another script took the product images, did visual lookups, generated all product descriptions, renamed the images and generated the seo text. it ran optimizations locally via a jpegoptim and oxipng script. it then uploaded them to dropbox, and via API, would generate a dropbox link map. i had one barebones csv template, which i'd run a ps1 script through to map json files into the csv rows, and insert the dropbox link map. all my images, links, followed the exact same slugs, so it turned 2 hours of manual work into a 5 second bulk rename and insert. it then converted that csv into json, which then itself converted that json into ld-json for product rich listings. ai would write the product description based on a dataseo keywords, and googletrends json file that would run on every product type. collecting keywords for that specific product. it also formed it around brand profiles, copy guides and other things. this was sonnet 3 days, GPT 4.0 days, and it STILL wrote great copy when it had the right guidance. in the .js file, i'd replace all em dashes with a hyphen if they ever appeared. i built a custom product uploader, built my own php plugin which synced to local .js files and connected via rest. it was (and still is) one of the best wc product uploaders that exist, as it completely resets filterlookups only for that product, and is lightning fast because i upload it directly into woocommerce rows from json. no importers, no wordpress malarkey, or WC rest needed. it was 50x faster than wc's own CSV import. the images would be uploaded via ftp, and then on detection, would sync those to the media library, and i'd upload the image meta from the seo run, so they all had captions/alt text etc. it took what would be 3-5 hours of manual work per product, and congested it into a 2 minute image to fully live product system. after that, i'd export sales data, the ai was constantly learning, sales data feeding back to files, which would then teach the ai what products work, what doesn't. what copy worked, what copy didn't. that would then flow back into the original source files which told the ai what images to gen and what products to launch. all of it was local on my pc. i wasn't selling an saas. it was just something that worked for my very particular setup. the thing about it is; i built that mostly with GPT 4.0 and a little bit of 3.5! mostly copy and pasting code manually from the chats in chatGPT. all the plugins, the php, everything. then some of it got improved inside vscode back on the old original copilot plans, when $10 used to last you an entire month of none stop coding. this was before n8n, before agents were even a thing. all of that I built very specifically for myself, local, syncing folder to folder, json file to json file. python scripts watching files, and .ps1 files that would follow up with other .ps1 files, which launched .js files which contained prompts for AI, and hitting the openAI API's whenever I needed the AI layer. eventually i built a terminal tool, which would allow me to run the scripts from the terminal, and i'd manually type in the slugs for which products i wanted processed. all files would sit in specific folders, and scripts would do the rest. i was so excited about that, giving my terminal app a shortcut icon and putting it onto my taskbar. that was a year ago. fast forward to now. the game has changed so much. ANYTHING and i mean anything is possible now. people 'new' to codex, and CC etc don't know how good they have it. but i've had this ******* idea for so long, to build a fully automated, self learning ecom business, that launches products end to end based on it's own research, writing, and growth, but the complexity of it previously , and being busy with life, it never got finalized. the secret is i sync it via etsy too, but they're API keys take FOREVER to aquire, but built my own etsy system, product uploader, which runs across 7 different stores. however, now, i've finally been building the replacement for it. i'll be able to run that exact same system, except this time through a full app, with a canvas, and agent systems instead of .ps1 scripts. not to say i won't run scripts; they're an integral part of any automated workflow, but now it has superpowers, and it can do so so so much more. all the ideas I wanted to do, automated, fully, end to end. not only that, but i moved away from woocommerce entirely. instead i just built my own website builder, which is also fully automated end to end. my brand profiles, my artwork system? i'm still using those, just for more things. now i can launch 50 brands just like it, running the same system, all in about 5 minutes. whether it's saas, local service, or online ecom. i also built an ai automated ad builder. it takes my brands images, or generates images. i've got background removers, and full skills and agents which fully generate the ads for me. it mixes all that into seedance videos, and posts in logos etc. now i take those image/videos, and build instagram, tiktok, facebook vids, generate descriptions, and upload them automatically. it has an every growing library to source from, templates to use, and the system derives right with the websites, so all themes/styles match precisely to the brand. this is why it's so great building for yourself. the amount of reusability you get with it, the fact it's free forever, can never be beaten. none of these saas companies get it. and they're heading in the wrong direction. we could already DO half of what these companies are doing. my own personal SEO system, which i built for my automated web builder, is already 10x better than any yoast, rankmath etc. i skip expensive ahrefs, semrush, and just rebuild their services myself, using API, which is 100x cheaper. except this time it FEEDS my system, and i don't need to lay a finger on it. nobody cares about these little one off apps that won't exist in a year. they're either failing to see the future, or they're hoping for an early exit before they know the dominos start falling. people will want PRIVATE systems. all speaking to each other. not 1200 integrations and 1200 invoices to send to, that don't even have a ******* brain. i'm not selling anything yet. but if you're interested in seeing how i think about automation, then stay a while and listen. the tool i'm building will absolutely help you too. but i'll be honest. i'm actually quite scared to release it, solely down to how powerful it is. not many people do it like i do, and i'm finally on here to tell the world.

  • MatthewTse_
    Matthew Tse (@MatthewTse_) reported

    @DropboxSupport Yep, still broken.

  • dholzric
    Dan Holzrichter (@dholzric) reported

    @JoshuaKhane This is why i have primary copy on my home system, backup on local server (raid array of old hd's), and copies on google drive and dropbox for anything important.

  • HeartofManoj
    Manoj (@HeartofManoj) reported

    One backup is never enough. If you run a website, keep a copy somewhere outside your hosting account. Free options: • Google Drive • Dropbox • OneDrive • GitHub (for code) • Local external drive Your backup is useless if it's stored on the same server that crashes. Happens more often than you'd think. #WordPress #WebHosting #Backup

  • evgenij_rabij
    Palpy (@evgenij_rabij) reported

    A 32 YEAR OLD PRAGUE DEV BULK-BUYS $180 CHINESE NAS BOXES AND NOW PULLS $7,200 A MONTH SHIPPING PRIVATE DROPBOX-KILLERS TO EU FREELANCE DESIGNERS While massive brands scramble to lock teams into clunky, data-mining cloud databases, this creator built a private intelligence system that secures sensitive data and brings in a massive stream of passive revenue every single month. He makes a steady $7,200 every single month by building and configuring private cloud and AI indexing hardware for EU freelance designers who want to escape subscription traps. The entire micro server fits right on the corner of a desk and runs on an ORICO metabox HS200 pro unit. This tiny sliver of hardware packs an Intel N100 processor, 8GB DDR4 RAM, and pumps out local cloud performance on a machine the size of a coffee coaster. Instead of letting his clients burn cash on recurring cloud storage retainers, the engineer pairs the board with two refurbished 30TB hard drives in RAID 1, pre-installs the software, and sells the complete physical package at a premium. Pause at the 0:02 mark in the video where the drive slides in: that is a sleek metallic chassis hosting a $1,000 mini-NAS holding 30TB of encrypted client data. The core value proposition of this setup comes down to absolute data privacy, zero monthly fees, and strategic scalability. Mainstream cloud providers like Dropbox Business can never offer this level of value because they bill €2,400 a year for the same storage tier while uploading private user files to external cloud networks. Here, the ORICO metabox pulls off the entire magic trick locally inside the office. Running on Ubuntu Server 24.04 and MinIO S3-compatible storage, the system automatically triggers a local Qwen 2.5 VL 7B model to run localized RAG pipelines directly over the user's PDFs and Figma exports. Through this custom setup, designers get access to lightning-fast local cloud storage, zero third-party data tracking, and a smart visual search assistant built right into their private drive. This case study is a textbook example of how accessible hardware combined with a smart setup service can unlock unique niche products that solve real human problems, and you can catch the full assembly pipeline in the video below.

  • rndposer
    Random Poser (@rndposer) reported

    @iHerbMiddleEast Problem with iHerb is your delivery service to consumers. They’re a challenge to work with. I wouldnprefer if there is option to get my deliveries directly in a dropbox somewhere near and not go thru the 3rd party delivery service.

  • aclater
    Adam (@aclater) reported

    Hey @FedEx @fedexhelp - you've got the wrong address on a dropbox in alexandria, and I keep getting your angry customers and packages. Happy to work together to fix it? I can DM details.

  • hugobowne
    Hugo Bowne-Anderson (@hugobowne) reported

    “You still use pull requests? I wouldn’t even do that anymore. Just push it straight to trunk, have your agent summarize it.” That’s @gregce10, co-founder and CPO of SpecStory. He previously worked at GitHub, Dropbox and Google, and was CPO at Pluralsight. And he kept going: - PRs are the limiting gate when agents produce more code than humans can review. - The model should never decide when its own work is finished. Put the deterministic checks somewhere it cannot access. - *** is probably here to stay. Whether GitHub remains the platform, “we’ll see.” @HanchungLee came at the same problem from the evaluation side. Han is Director of Machine Learning at Moody’s and works on SkillsBench, evaluating skills across combinations of models and agent harnesses. - An agent is the model plus its harness. You need to evaluate the complete system. - A green check proves nothing if the agent found a way to game the task. - Your agent could delete the failing test and declare success. Both are figuring out how to turn masses of agent-generated slop into signal. Greg mined 516 saved agent sessions to recover the decisions and intent behind the work, identify recurring practices, and forge the ones he approved into reusable skills. Han runs skills inside controlled environments, grades the result, and preserves the complete trajectory so we can inspect what the agent actually did. Preserve the intent. Inspect the trajectory. Verify the result. Turn what works into skills. Full episode in the replies 👇

  • Theeevilprince1
    Theeevilprincess (@Theeevilprince1) reported

    My Dropbox I cannot login so everything is being sent on telegram until further notice

  • ihtesham2005
    Ihtesham Ali (@ihtesham2005) reported

    This is how you share a file when you do not trust Google, Dropbox, or the government. A free tool called OnionShare sends it directly through Tor. Nothing needs to sit permanently on someone else's server. Here's what actually happens when you use it. You drag a file into the app. Your own computer turns into the server. Tor wraps it, and you get a long address ending in .onion that you send to whoever needs the file. They open it in Tor Browser and pull the file straight off your machine. You close the app, the address dies. Compare that to how everyone else moves files. You drop it in Drive, Google keeps a copy. You use WeTransfer, that link lives on their infrastructure for a week, logged and tied to your IP. Every one of those services is a promise that a company will behave well, forever, under any amount of legal pressure. OnionShare removes the company from the sentence. Micah Lee built it in 2014. He'd worked with the journalists handling the Snowden documents and watched how many ways a source could get burned just trying to hand over a file. So he built the thing that removes the middle. It does three things. Send files with no size limit and no account. Chat with someone and keep zero record of it. Host an entire website off your laptop that disappears from the internet the moment you shut the lid. The New York Times, The Guardian, and The Intercept all point sources at this. Those are newsrooms betting other people's freedom on a free download. The interface looks like a file picker from 2011. Someone spent years making the hardest privacy problem in computing feel like using WinZip, and that's the actual achievement here. A scared person at 2am is not going to configure a server. They can drag a file into a window. It is completely open source. Most people will never need this. The ones who do don't get a second try if they picked the wrong app. What do you think about this?

  • SolA3800
    Sol!A3800 (@SolA3800) reported

    @Dropbox I have loads of upload problems with Dropbox, scarce access to customer support inside the app, whilst when trying to get customers support from outside the app, the information says get customers support from inside the app. Have paid £19.99 for more than a year with little use benefit of the service, am considering closing the account.

  • oliviscusAI
    Oliver Prompts (@oliviscusAI) reported

    you pay google, dropbox, and apple $10+/month to store your files on their servers, where they can read them. and dropbox already got breached in 2024. there's a tool that syncs your files directly between your own devices. no cloud, no server, no middleman. it's called syncthing. → real-time sync between any number of devices, peer-to-peer → files go straight between your devices, never touching a third-party server → tls encryption with perfect forward secrecy on every connection → works over lan and internet, no port forwarding needed → file versioning, roll back anything you changed or deleted there is no syncthing server. no syncthing cloud. no company storing your data. the protocol is open, and there's nothing between your devices except an encrypted tunnel. dropbox plus is $144/year. google one 2tb is $120/year. syncthing is $0, unlimited devices, unlimited storage, forever. battle-tested since 2013. run by a swedish non-profit. 100% free. open source.

  • heyyyjoo
    Joo Tat (@heyyyjoo) reported

    @kozerafilip @joinsauna @newitemco Here’s my main first impression of Sauna: I don’t see a clear winning use case yet. At least from my perspective, Sauna currently feels like a broad AI layer on top of the apps you already use. It can suggest what to do, help find information, and has a multiplayer/collaboration angle around understanding what other people are doing. But I don’t yet see the specific use case where Sauna is clearly much better than existing alternatives. For an early product, I think it would be useful to have a sharper wedge: a specific group of people, in a specific situation, with a painful problem where existing solutions are poor, and where Sauna is obviously the better answer. Maybe that wedge already exists, but as an outsider looking at the website and demo, it is not immediately clear to me. This feels especially important because Sauna asks users to overcome a meaningful amount of friction and anxiety. To unlock the value, users may need to connect sensitive apps like email, Slack, and Notion. If the multiplayer value is important, they may also need to convince teammates to connect their own sensitive apps. That creates a big trust and coordination hurdle, so the value proposition needs to be extremely clear before people will make that jump. One analogy I think about is Notion. Notion is now a very broad horizontal product: people use it as a CRM, Jira alternative, team wiki, notes app, etc. But early on, I believe it had a much simpler starting point: document and knowledge organization. The product and communication was focused on a better way to store, structure, and share notes and docs compared to alternatives like Google Drive, Dropbox, or scattered documents. People could use it for their own notes and documents first. Then, when they eventually shared a page with colleagues, those colleagues could immediately see the value because the page was easy to navigate, clear, flexible, and beautiful. I wonder what the wedge could be for Sauna. I noticed that the Solutions page seems to heavily feature Sauna in Slack, as an assistant that has access to shared context. Is that something that has been resonating better with users? One possible wedge could be someone who is overwhelmed by Slack because they have too many messages and threads to respond to. They could drop their personal assistant into a channel to help reply on their behalf, using context shared with Sauna, and escalate when it is unable to answer confidently. That might also create an easier mental model around access: the personal assistant in Sauna has access to more private context, while the team-facing assistant in Slack has more limited, scoped access. From there, if colleagues see the assistant working and want their own, that could be a natural path into the multiplayer or “*** main branch” idea. Individual assistants could start to merge shared context and provide better help, suggestions, and coordination over time. I’m not sure if this is the right wedge. The answer may already be visible in the product’s usage patterns: who is sticky, what they are using Sauna for, and where they are getting repeated value. But I think the key question is: what is the specific initial use case where Sauna is not just useful, but dramatically better than the alternatives? Once that is clear, I think the product / website / demo should make that use case extremely obvious to the users who need it. (Btw I'm speaking with Ryan tmr regarding the PM role. Which was what led me to explore Sauna as part of my own research. Thought I might as well share my first impressions here)

  • bvmaryp
    Mary, The Other Mrs P 🇺🇸💙🇺🇦📎 (@bvmaryp) reported

    @JohnLaMacc What voter fraud? What Dropbox problem?

  • thatguybg
    brett goldstein (@thatguybg) reported

    clean but slow founder announcement video - lighting is really nice - music matches minimalist energy - glad to see the founder making this announcement but - waits WAYYY too long (til 1:24) to say what they're announcing. longest I've seen. - too much time on a problem everyone already gets - missed op animating visuals over hand gestures when explaining stuff - visuals way too small - captions are hard to read / too long - opening is a little awk - spenser sounds very nice when he says the first line, then drops the f bomb - script needs to be tightened up a ton - end kinda trails off and no CTA lots of people try this "breaking the third wall" opener where you show some authentic conversation preparing for a take, but a lot of folks mess up trying to fake it. dropbox had a bad one and this is similar. length is the killer with this. at 25k impressions, I'd be surprised if more than 100 people actually watched through to when he actually says what the product is. think this could have been a 5/5 if it was shorter, more to the point, and a really good animator worked with the script to animate things around spenser as he spoke.

  • jackcoder0
    Jack (@jackcoder0) reported

    1. Kill the Login Items the apps launching before you even sit down. Every time you log in, your Mac quietly launches 10-25 apps in the background. Spotify. Slack. Zoom. Google Drive. Dropbox. Creative Cloud. OneDrive. Each one consumes CPU and memory before you've opened a single window. System Settings → General → Login Items & Extensions. Review the list. Remove everything you don't need the instant you log in. You can always open them manually when you actually need them. His Mac had 19 login items. He needed 3. He removed 16. Boot time dropped from 2 minutes to 18 seconds. The first few minutes of every session — that sluggish, unresponsive window where nothing works gone.

  • WeirdDarkness
    Weird Darkness®️ (@WeirdDarkness) reported

    Dear @Google and @YouTube... My account has been hacked, and not only have I lost my Gmail, YouTube, etc., but I've also lost access to my Dropbox that has my full life in it, health records that I used Google to login to, etc. I signed up for Google Account Protection, but it did not protect me. Somehow, even after setting up brand new 2-factor authentication just a few weeks ago, they hacked in, changed EVERYTHING, and now my life, career, and health are at a standstill. I desperately need somebody to contact me. All options I've tried to regain access to my account have failed because everything has been disconnected.

  • munchivelo
    J. (@munchivelo) reported

    track back to just over a year to now. i'd built an automated ecommerce flow that took a whole store end to end. seo would research trends, products, and map those into .js scripts which would launch prompts that read those research files. that would feed an image gen prompt which created designs, set to specific standard. i'd generate them, and then ANOTHER prompt, would check the images, score them with a criteria, and either move them to an accepted folder, or move them to an archive folder. the accepted folders, would automatically fire a script which would open photoshop, map the image to smart layers, in a 'product shot' template i'd made, and then export all of the final product shots to another folder, and then exported the flat designs which would be used for the products. another script took the product images, did visual lookups, generated all product descriptions, renamed the images and generated the seo text. it ran optimizations locally via a jpegoptim and oxipng script. it then uploaded them to dropbox, and via API, would generate a dropbox link map. i had one barebones csv template, which i'd run a ps1 script through to map json files into the csv rows, and insert the dropbox link map. all my images, links, followed the exact same slugs, so it turned 2 hours of manual work into a 5 second bulk rename and insert. it then converted that csv into json, which then itself converted that json into ld-json for product rich listings. ai would write the product description based on a dataseo keywords, and googletrends json file that would run on every product type. collecting keywords for that specific product. it also formed it around brand profiles, copy guides and other things. this was sonnet 3 days, GPT 4.0 days, and it STILL wrote great copy when it had the right guidance. in the .js file, i'd replace all em dashes with a hyphen if they ever appeared. i built a custom product uploader, built my own php plugin which synced to local .js files and connected via rest. it was (and still is) one of the best wc product uploaders that exist, as it completely resets filterlookups only for that product, and is lightning fast because i upload it directly into woocommerce rows from json. no importers, no wordpress malarkey, or WC rest needed. it was 50x faster than wc's own CSV import. the images would be uploaded via ftp, and then on detection, would sync those to the media library, and i'd upload the image meta from the seo run, so they all had captions/alt text etc. it took what would be 3-5 hours of manual work per product, and congested it into a 2 minute image to fully live product system. after that, i'd export sales data, the ai was constantly learning, sales data feeding back to files, which would then teach the ai what products work, what doesn't. what copy worked, what copy didn't. that would then flow back into the original source files which told the ai what images to gen and what products to launch. all of it was local on my pc. i wasn't selling an saas. it was just something that worked for my very particular setup. the thing about it is; i built that mostly with GPT 4.0 and a little bit of 3.5! mostly copy and pasting code manually from the chats in chatGPT. all the plugins, the php, everything. then some of it got improved inside vscode back on the old original copilot plans, when $10 used to last you an entire month of none stop coding. this was before n8n, before agents were even a thing. all of that I built very specifically for myself, local, syncing folder to folder, json file to json file. python scripts watching files, and .ps1 files that would follow up with other .ps1 files, which launched .js files which contained prompts for AI, and hitting the openAI API's whenever I needed the AI layer. eventually i built a terminal tool, which would allow me to run the scripts from the terminal, and i'd manually type in the slugs for which products i wanted processed. all files would sit in specific folders, and scripts would do the rest. i was so excited about that, giving my terminal app a shortcut icon and putting it onto my taskbar. that was a year ago. fast forward to now. the game has changed so much. ANYTHING and i mean anything is possible now. people 'new' to codex, and CC etc don't know how good they have it. my advantage is that i have a year of scripts, a year of tools. i've laid the SYSTEMS in place, to fully map out entire features, precisely, and organized, and build out projects, in one hour, and have it implemented within the next. entire saas features - mousework. but i've had this ******* idea for so long, to build a fully automated, self learning ecom business, that launches products end to end based on it's own research, writing, and growth, but the complexity of it previously , and being busy with life, it never got finalized. the secret is i sync it via etsy too, but they're API keys take FOREVER to aquire, but built my own etsy system, product uploader, which runs across 7 different stores. however, now, i've finally been building the replacement for it. i'll be able to run that exact same system, except this time through a full app, with a canvas, and agent systems instead of .ps1 scripts. not to say i won't run scripts; they're an integral part of any automated workflow, but now it has superpowers, and it can do so so so much more. all the ideas I wanted to do, automated, fully, end to end. not only that, but i moved away from woocommerce entirely. instead i just built my own website builder, which is also fully automated end to end. my brand profiles, my artwork system? i'm still using those, just for more things. now i can launch 50 brands just like it, running the same system, all in about 5 minutes. whether it's saas, local service, or online ecom. i also built an ai automated ad builder. it takes my brands images, or generates images. i've got background removers, and full skills and agents which fully generate the ads for me. it mixes all that into seedance videos, and posts in logos etc. now i take those image/videos, and build instagram, tiktok, facebook vids, generate descriptions, and upload them automatically. it has an every growing library to source from, templates to use, and the system derives right with the websites, so all themes/styles match precisely to the brand. this is why it's so great building for yourself. the amount of reusability you get with it, the fact it's free forever, can never be beaten. none of these saas companies get it. and they're heading in the wrong direction. we could already DO half of what these companies are doing. my own personal SEO system, which i built for my automated web builder, is already 10x better than any yoast, rankmath etc. i skip expensive ahrefs, semrush, and just rebuild their services myself, using API, which is 100x cheaper. except this time it FEEDS my system, and i don't need to lay a finger on it. nobody cares about these little one off apps that won't exist in a year. they're either failing to see the future, or they're hoping for an early exit before they know the dominos start falling. and they don't get it. their 'app' is just a little tiny module in something that thinks bigger. people will want PRIVATE systems. all speaking to each other. not 1200 integrations and 1200 invoices to send to, that don't even have a ******* brain. i'm not selling anything yet. but if you're interested in seeing how i think about automation, then stay a while and listen. the tool i'm building will absolutely help you too. but i'll be honest. i'm actually quite scared to release it, solely down to how powerful it is. not many people do it like i do, and i'm finally on here to tell the world. if you're a cannabilistic, sick sadistic, son of *****, 666, you're in pain but you sit and stick with it, in the midst of business, then drop a you know what.